I am CERTAIN FAs have reported Thompson’s sleazy behaviour and were ignored. Certain. It just gets worse, and they NEVER learn.
I know of one drugged up creep (ambien) currently and thankfully only working as a cargo pilot. The problem is also that the APA ( pilots’ union) is militant and will defend pilots to the death which makes it hard for those companies that prioritise the best interests of their employees and passengers to fire these creeps.
I can only imagine that in those close quarters, colleagues noticed *something.* And that they probably felt that of course management would want to know about it! How wrong they would've been.
This particular pervert was a Fed Ex pilot who sexually assaulted a passenger. He was then hired by CommuteAir, a regional airline (passenger transportation), AFTER settling with the victim. So I was wrong. He IS flying passengers AFTER sexually assaulting a lady during a flight AND failing to declare to his employer he took large quantities of ambien, at one point in his life. That’s not a disaster waiting to happen! It is a race to the bottom with these airlines and their practices.
Oh my! can you direct me to the case, or was it settled before anything was filed with the courts?? SCARY. Meanwhile, thinking of his victim(s)... is there anything worse than seeing your abuser thriving in his career and free to continue assaulting other people? You and I have both experienced this, even if circumstances are different...
Monte Wedl. I featured it on Reddit. You can Google the case.
Dowling v. United Airlines, Inc.
It is awful and painful to see Molin painted as a victim, or as someone who suffered a great injustice by social media . It was easier when he was forgotten but the current social media, (YouTube, podcast), trend of reviving the past and reassessing old aviation disasters has meant some people have cast Molin as someone who was horribly wronged. Thank God this has now changed.
Victims in general want to feel like there is some justice or karma in this world…. Predators shouldn’t be thriving, like apparently Wendl is at CommuteAir.
Exactly...for me it's the sting of so many people happily platforming known abusers. They're like eh no big deal, or eh she's making it up, or eh, i'm fine with sexual assault. It's the "good" people giving them a pass that get to me, and it's so rampant. I've found some support on Linkedin, believe it or not, where the algorithm has put me in contact with a lot of women (and some men) working to shine a light on assault, DV, stalking, as well as educating the world on what signs to look for, how to help yourself and others you think are victims of this, and most important to me at the moment, working for systemic change and calling out institutional failures, corruption and coverups. There was a journalist in Australia who was stalked by a woman, helped get her abuser criminally charged, and wrote a book about it and her speaking out has helped a lot of people.
Victims can’t get any closure when their abusers are featured prominently in the media.
Petter Hornfeldt’s “Mentour Pilot” wife (who was previously a FA) was groped by a sleazy Captain. She talked about that experience on one of his YouTube videos a while ago. Everyone has a story.
Also Exactly, unless it is a brutal assault that almost ends in your death you are expected to just “forget it”, and “move on” for the sake of HIS reputation. Society priorities the feelings, careers, family etc of White men above those of anyone else, no matter the harm they have done. People also love to minimise sexual assault as “no big deal”.
When these predators are exposed there is almost always a group of enablers who turned a blind eye to abuse , or watched passively as it happened. It’s always worse for victims when corporations like American actively cover up abuse or protect the abuser. It is also REALLY hard to get people in general to care about abuse. Plenty of people will jump in to defend a long dead pedophile though. That never ceases to amaze and sicken me. There is information about Wedl in the Reddit group. I hope B—— doesn’t get it shut down because he or his supporters are trying really hard to!
A note on the Butler allegations: I am getting swamped with emails and comments that Butler may have done XYZ to up to 5 different women. I am urging these people to go to the police or contact the victim’s lawyer. I just can’t do anything with that information. I can’t post about it with getting slapped with a defamation lawsuit.
The group is getting large numbers of views. One Butler post had over 15,000 views on par with the Molin stuff. Some of those views will be bots however compared to the 1.5k posts that other posts get, such as Nelson or Haak, a large number of those views must be real. I have to be very careful to protect myself legally so I always add a legal note to my posts “Butler is presumed innocent” (although I am not sure if that is the proper legal term given he isn’t criminally charged with an offence). People are angry that I am adding legal notes. They are also claiming I don’t believe victims and the legal notes are “annoying”. I have tried to explain that I am bound by the law to add legal notes to my posts and that there is nothing I can do about it. It is incredibly frustrating given I am trying to support the victims in any small way I can, including reporting safety concerns to the FAA. The problem is the current civil legal action against Alaska Air Group could be compromised if it is argued that Butler’s victim is slandering him online and is motivated purely by money. The civil lawsuit, as far as I am aware, does do not contain a rape allegation. The allegations are of sexual harassment only. So I can only post about that. Butler’s victim and her supporters need to be legally advised that posting these sorts of accusations on social media could get her sued for defamation IF she can’t prove the claims, and compromise the legal action taking place. I am going to be away for the next few days on a long trip so I hope people can be civil on Reddit as I don’t want the group banned.
I am CERTAIN FAs have reported Thompson’s sleazy behaviour and were ignored. Certain. It just gets worse, and they NEVER learn.
I know of one drugged up creep (ambien) currently and thankfully only working as a cargo pilot. The problem is also that the APA ( pilots’ union) is militant and will defend pilots to the death which makes it hard for those companies that prioritise the best interests of their employees and passengers to fire these creeps.
I can only imagine that in those close quarters, colleagues noticed *something.* And that they probably felt that of course management would want to know about it! How wrong they would've been.
This particular pervert was a Fed Ex pilot who sexually assaulted a passenger. He was then hired by CommuteAir, a regional airline (passenger transportation), AFTER settling with the victim. So I was wrong. He IS flying passengers AFTER sexually assaulting a lady during a flight AND failing to declare to his employer he took large quantities of ambien, at one point in his life. That’s not a disaster waiting to happen! It is a race to the bottom with these airlines and their practices.
Oh my! can you direct me to the case, or was it settled before anything was filed with the courts?? SCARY. Meanwhile, thinking of his victim(s)... is there anything worse than seeing your abuser thriving in his career and free to continue assaulting other people? You and I have both experienced this, even if circumstances are different...
Monte Wedl. I featured it on Reddit. You can Google the case.
Dowling v. United Airlines, Inc.
It is awful and painful to see Molin painted as a victim, or as someone who suffered a great injustice by social media . It was easier when he was forgotten but the current social media, (YouTube, podcast), trend of reviving the past and reassessing old aviation disasters has meant some people have cast Molin as someone who was horribly wronged. Thank God this has now changed.
Victims in general want to feel like there is some justice or karma in this world…. Predators shouldn’t be thriving, like apparently Wendl is at CommuteAir.
Exactly...for me it's the sting of so many people happily platforming known abusers. They're like eh no big deal, or eh she's making it up, or eh, i'm fine with sexual assault. It's the "good" people giving them a pass that get to me, and it's so rampant. I've found some support on Linkedin, believe it or not, where the algorithm has put me in contact with a lot of women (and some men) working to shine a light on assault, DV, stalking, as well as educating the world on what signs to look for, how to help yourself and others you think are victims of this, and most important to me at the moment, working for systemic change and calling out institutional failures, corruption and coverups. There was a journalist in Australia who was stalked by a woman, helped get her abuser criminally charged, and wrote a book about it and her speaking out has helped a lot of people.
Victims can’t get any closure when their abusers are featured prominently in the media.
Petter Hornfeldt’s “Mentour Pilot” wife (who was previously a FA) was groped by a sleazy Captain. She talked about that experience on one of his YouTube videos a while ago. Everyone has a story.
Also Exactly, unless it is a brutal assault that almost ends in your death you are expected to just “forget it”, and “move on” for the sake of HIS reputation. Society priorities the feelings, careers, family etc of White men above those of anyone else, no matter the harm they have done. People also love to minimise sexual assault as “no big deal”.
When these predators are exposed there is almost always a group of enablers who turned a blind eye to abuse , or watched passively as it happened. It’s always worse for victims when corporations like American actively cover up abuse or protect the abuser. It is also REALLY hard to get people in general to care about abuse. Plenty of people will jump in to defend a long dead pedophile though. That never ceases to amaze and sicken me. There is information about Wedl in the Reddit group. I hope B—— doesn’t get it shut down because he or his supporters are trying really hard to!
I will check out that case for sure. Sickening.
A note on the Butler allegations: I am getting swamped with emails and comments that Butler may have done XYZ to up to 5 different women. I am urging these people to go to the police or contact the victim’s lawyer. I just can’t do anything with that information. I can’t post about it with getting slapped with a defamation lawsuit.
The group is getting large numbers of views. One Butler post had over 15,000 views on par with the Molin stuff. Some of those views will be bots however compared to the 1.5k posts that other posts get, such as Nelson or Haak, a large number of those views must be real. I have to be very careful to protect myself legally so I always add a legal note to my posts “Butler is presumed innocent” (although I am not sure if that is the proper legal term given he isn’t criminally charged with an offence). People are angry that I am adding legal notes. They are also claiming I don’t believe victims and the legal notes are “annoying”. I have tried to explain that I am bound by the law to add legal notes to my posts and that there is nothing I can do about it. It is incredibly frustrating given I am trying to support the victims in any small way I can, including reporting safety concerns to the FAA. The problem is the current civil legal action against Alaska Air Group could be compromised if it is argued that Butler’s victim is slandering him online and is motivated purely by money. The civil lawsuit, as far as I am aware, does do not contain a rape allegation. The allegations are of sexual harassment only. So I can only post about that. Butler’s victim and her supporters need to be legally advised that posting these sorts of accusations on social media could get her sued for defamation IF she can’t prove the claims, and compromise the legal action taking place. I am going to be away for the next few days on a long trip so I hope people can be civil on Reddit as I don’t want the group banned.