Thank you for your incredible support and all your hard work exposing predators in the aviation industry. And Thank you Dr Tony Kern for hearing our stories and giving them a platform! This means so much to all victims, that someone out there cares and we are finally being heard and believed.
I wonder how much it costs and/or what it would require to make The Landing a podcast? Or similar about predators in aviation and male dominated fields in general? I know there are two ladies (who love aviation, not aviation industry professionals themselves) who created a podcast series called Take To The Skies about plane crashes that did quite well.
That way victims of Sten Molin could be interviewed and people could finally hear us tell our stories and know we are all real and not all you or one person (according to Molin’s underage Baby Momma). I was amazed at how quick, easy, and cheap it is to make a YouTube video.
I think a podcast is definitely a possibility one day, and Tony and I talked about that. Problem is, I'd almost never get any victim-survivors on. Many aren't legally allowed to talk, then add those who are too scared, like if the wrong person heard them and recognized their voice/accent, that's a concern for them. It's hard enough for them to feel safe enough to talk to me even through writing, and with small details changed to protect privacy. Just spitballing here. I think the idea is always in the mix, though. Would you come on? Or be a cohost?
Isn’t that awful? Sexual assault survivors are legally not allowed to talk about their abuse!!!! How is that even a thing!?!?
You can always disguise someone’s identity etc their appearance, their voice, they do it all the time on 60 Minutes.
I guess it would be ok to talk about the well publicised cases like Haak, and even Nelson. Then there are the dead predators like Al-Batouti, Shah, Lubitz, Falitz, and Molin. You could talk in very general terms about certain cases without naming names.
I don’t think I’d be much of a great cohost but Karlene certainly would be fantastic. You could discuss the unberbelly of the aviation industry in general. I guess it would be a legal minefield though. I would be happy to tell my Molin story. You could always mix it up with funny aviation stories as well as the bleak sexual assault stories.
I guess you would have to frame it as revisiting plane crashes to explore the psychological factors involved in crashes, or “dark secrets of the aviation industry”, rather than “victims of assault in aviation”, as we all know too well, no one cares about sexual assault or abuse of women and girls.
It really is. It's a huge part of the problem for us, and a huge part of the benefit for them. People are truly silent around this issue. When some really important stories here, for example, don't get shared, they sink fast, and that harms the women who put themselves out there. People are scared, jittery, nervous, and find this topic extremely uncomfortable, so they're not reposting it on any socials, etc. It's exhausting.
I would be interested to hear more about the Air France situation. Dr Kern makes an excellent point that you need to understand the mentality of all the enablers of this behaviour. I’ve been out of the loop for a while because I needed a mental break, but it’s good to know that we are making some inroads in trying to stop this kind of thing from happening.
hi! Don't I know it, about the mental break. Those are so important. I keep trying to slip away from this and it keeps dragging me back, so we forge on. Click the AF link in the story and you'll read what's basically exactly what I've already written--and what SM victims have shared themselves online--as if it's all new and shocking. If people would listen to victims, maybe AF and other airlines that foster this culture and abuse would've been cleaned out years ago. Many of you sounded the alarm long ago. It was buried. I'm glad it's at least hovering at the surface now
Thank you for your incredible support and all your hard work exposing predators in the aviation industry. And Thank you Dr Tony Kern for hearing our stories and giving them a platform! This means so much to all victims, that someone out there cares and we are finally being heard and believed.
I wonder how much it costs and/or what it would require to make The Landing a podcast? Or similar about predators in aviation and male dominated fields in general? I know there are two ladies (who love aviation, not aviation industry professionals themselves) who created a podcast series called Take To The Skies about plane crashes that did quite well.
That way victims of Sten Molin could be interviewed and people could finally hear us tell our stories and know we are all real and not all you or one person (according to Molin’s underage Baby Momma). I was amazed at how quick, easy, and cheap it is to make a YouTube video.
I think a podcast is definitely a possibility one day, and Tony and I talked about that. Problem is, I'd almost never get any victim-survivors on. Many aren't legally allowed to talk, then add those who are too scared, like if the wrong person heard them and recognized their voice/accent, that's a concern for them. It's hard enough for them to feel safe enough to talk to me even through writing, and with small details changed to protect privacy. Just spitballing here. I think the idea is always in the mix, though. Would you come on? Or be a cohost?
Isn’t that awful? Sexual assault survivors are legally not allowed to talk about their abuse!!!! How is that even a thing!?!?
You can always disguise someone’s identity etc their appearance, their voice, they do it all the time on 60 Minutes.
I guess it would be ok to talk about the well publicised cases like Haak, and even Nelson. Then there are the dead predators like Al-Batouti, Shah, Lubitz, Falitz, and Molin. You could talk in very general terms about certain cases without naming names.
I don’t think I’d be much of a great cohost but Karlene certainly would be fantastic. You could discuss the unberbelly of the aviation industry in general. I guess it would be a legal minefield though. I would be happy to tell my Molin story. You could always mix it up with funny aviation stories as well as the bleak sexual assault stories.
I guess you would have to frame it as revisiting plane crashes to explore the psychological factors involved in crashes, or “dark secrets of the aviation industry”, rather than “victims of assault in aviation”, as we all know too well, no one cares about sexual assault or abuse of women and girls.
It really is. It's a huge part of the problem for us, and a huge part of the benefit for them. People are truly silent around this issue. When some really important stories here, for example, don't get shared, they sink fast, and that harms the women who put themselves out there. People are scared, jittery, nervous, and find this topic extremely uncomfortable, so they're not reposting it on any socials, etc. It's exhausting.
I would be interested to hear more about the Air France situation. Dr Kern makes an excellent point that you need to understand the mentality of all the enablers of this behaviour. I’ve been out of the loop for a while because I needed a mental break, but it’s good to know that we are making some inroads in trying to stop this kind of thing from happening.
hi! Don't I know it, about the mental break. Those are so important. I keep trying to slip away from this and it keeps dragging me back, so we forge on. Click the AF link in the story and you'll read what's basically exactly what I've already written--and what SM victims have shared themselves online--as if it's all new and shocking. If people would listen to victims, maybe AF and other airlines that foster this culture and abuse would've been cleaned out years ago. Many of you sounded the alarm long ago. It was buried. I'm glad it's at least hovering at the surface now