Virginia Giuffre fought as long as she could. She died by suicide on Thursday. The abuse directed toward survivors, including on THE LANDING, piles on the trauma
R.I.P Virginia. Rape and abuse does irreparable psychological damage. The response from people when you out your abuser often compounds the heartache.
Molin’s baby momma is still at it. She’s all over the Reddit group and Twitter. I think she knows “Jim Bean” and a few of the old creepers Molin used to hang with. I can’t believe people are still coming forward about Molin! You always think “it was just me”, and sadly it never is “just you”. Heartbreaking. I really hoped Virginia would triumph. If only they would release the names of all the scum who visited Epstein island.
I get the strong sense that after that April-June harassment and abuse spree, the "guys" if they existed at all realized what a bizarre and unhinged waste of time it is to stalk a journalist and other rape victims over a dead guy everyone knew was bad. I think she's the only one left, and is using multiple accounts to make it seem like a crowd is defending him (I can't wait to reveal the proof. Problem is, once I do, she'll realize her mistake and I'll have given up the trick. I'm still on the fence about this one, but it's a shocking reveal so I probably will). I'll say it again: Where are the people in her life to tell her this is very bad for her, and is dragging everything out more than it ever had to be, and is dragging Sten Molin's name harder than it ever had to? This continues now only because of her obsessive harassment. She won't stop on her own, because she thrives on the attention, bad or good. Why don't they tell her? The only answer I can come up with is, she has no one who cares enough to do that for her, and that's part of the reason she's the way she is. Whoever "she" is. I used to say, don't talk about her here becuase that's what she wants--to be relevant, and to matter. But she inserts herself no matter what you do, so go to town. As long as she's out there continuing to harass and stalk against everyone's wishes and consent, she puts herself into the fire, so here we are.
"They" don't tell her because they either ignore it all or the enjoy the "entertainment" - either way, anybody who could do something and does not is part of the problem. On the other hand, maybe people are telling her but she is so unhinged that she pays no heed.
Going into a fourth year of relentless harassment, including death threats, I have come to believe the desire to be a main character, to have attention no matter how negative, trumps everything. I was reading recently that stalkers have a strong need for control, and this is one way they feel they can exercise it. In both France and Australia, this is patently illegal. The statute of limitations kicks in several years after last unwanted contact, which in my case was a few hours ago. It's a long process and the counterintelligence firm I hired warned me these things can take years--and even if there's a conviction, the stalkers don't stop. The case of Australian journalist Nicole Madigan is another one where she got a conviction against her stalker, and when the stalker's probation was up, she resumed her harassment. It's beyond my comprehension, but I'm learning...
It’s easy to spot people using multiple accounts, you check out the rest of “their” feeds and if everything is about Molin then you know it’s her. I really doubt pilots are defending Molin, maybe 3 maybe 4. She was once a victim and now she spends her time defending a dead pedophile. Her family most definitely don’t care about her or they are probably just like Molin. Birds of a feather. Don’t waste your time engaging with her just block.
In the past I would IMMEDIATELY delete and block. Now i'm letting her rants sit and fester, to let everyone see who she is and what a lunatic she is. Only good thing to happen lately is that I've found other victims of cyberstalking who go through the exact same thing, so I'm not alone. I guess the psychology of stalkers is similar across the board; you have to have a certain wiring problem that won't let you stop.
This is so sad. RIP Virginia. Sara, I'm so sorry that person is stil harassing you. And she's going for others by the look of it? This kind of behaviour is unhinged. Is it CZL? She goes by Zoe from what I know. I've been reading since the Medium days and I can't believe she's still going. I promise you she is considered a joke in the industry. Everyone knows she's delusional and in love with a corpse. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. this is not okay
Hi! It's nice to hear from you. Yes, it's "CZL." Until now, I've banned the use of her name here, as that's not what this newsletter is about or for, and I ruffled a few feathers deleting some comments about her because she is not a factor here. Unfortunately, she has spent years chasing me from platform to platform, harassing and stalking and threatening, not to mention attempting to catfish and doing a terrible job of it (that's for a future post, and the book), and writing entire articles about how I play with my own poo (with apologies to people with actual manners and taste. No one ever said she had either of those things), that now she has put herself up for public discussion. Therefore, as she has inserted herself, uninvited, into every conversation women try to have about their assaults--and conversations about anything at all, really--her volumes of harassing messages are all going to be revealed. She's wanted to be a main character for years, and due to the sheer volume of her unwanted attacks and defamatory claims, she will be.
for anyone interested in the topic of cyberstalking--or if you have been affected by it--here's a chilling new feature from BBC's Panorama talking about the bizarre phenomenon of stalkers never stopping, even after they're convicted. That also happened to Australian journalist Nicole Madigan, who spoke to a podcast about how her stalker was sentenced in criminal court and resumed her stalking when her probation was up. (all 3 stalkers mentioned in this comment are women, interestingly). What also struck me about this story was how the man involved was desperately asking, "How can you prove a negative?" She said he harmed her cat; how could he tell his followers he did no such thing? Very hard. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y9134jy0jo
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'll definitely check out the story. I don't blame you. I admire your restraint all these years. Are you aware she thinks everyone is you? She fights on reddit with people who are obviously not you and says they're Sara Hammel or Hummel. I don't know where that came from. It makes no sense and the obsession seems out of control
It's affected my life in so many ways, including mental health, relationships, and a reduction in book sales. Those damages cannot be undone. Thanks for your kind words. I'm going to restrict comments to paid only now, but will comp you so you can continue to comment if you'd like. There were two articles last week that changed my view of all this: The Panorama one I just linked to, and one that described the outdated advice on stalking. The old advice of ignore and block cyberstalkers is no longer believed to help (I can testify to this). If anything, it ratchets it up and riles them up more. Also, they say this idea that I've stuck to for these years that says that with a stalker, if you meet them on their level, you're in the mud with them, so stay above it, which I've done, is also outdated. Problem is, she says everyone is me, including accounts on social media making racist remarks and talking about drug addictions. People already think I've gotten down on her level to fight with her. So staying above it does me no good.
For starters, I got an email from a mutual friend saying CZL or Zoe or Zophie Leonard is now coming for Karlene Petitt on Twitter, and is still over there accusing everyone including you of being Sara Hammel, and now I know she's beyond help. blue sky she's had 3 accounts harassing me out of the blue, including one called "Mriya." I think she thinks he's still alive. Imagine if you are her husband, if she has one? What must he think of this obsession over a dead pedophile? I still can't wrap my head around it. I have asked several times for her to go away and leave me alone. That's all I ever wanted. Her response: I'll never stop. So things are going to change.
That’s her married name. It’s Claire-Zophie or Zoe. Mriya is the daughter. Although she claims Molin never had kids with underage girls. Yeah right! My opinion is that she is embarrassed about who Molin was and is trying to save his reputation and by default hers. She actually told you she’ll never stop?
How do you know her? Are you with American? Or QANTAS? She holds an ATPL and worked ATC but she’s not a line pilot. You’re right. She’s batshit and no one in the industry takes her seriously except the aviation fratboys out at Bankstown which was Molin’s old haunt.
I'm peripheral to the industry. I don't know her personally, but I have seen her go off on social media. When I came to check out this Substack after a long time away, I couldn't believe she was still going. I don't want to be identified as the people I know are afraid of retaliation, but I wanted to at least show some support.
The flight from JFK to Changi Airport Singapore and then on to Sydney Australia is the longest flight route in the world. It is a nightmare for passengers and crew. It is almost 19 hours of pure torture in cramped conditions, no sleep and horrible jet lag after. The worst seat in the house on that plane has to be the tiny cockpit jump seat squished at the back of the flight deck. Think economy class but with even less leg room and no comfortable cushioned seat. You have to ask yourself why Sten Molin was regularly taking the jump seat on that flight to come all the way down to Australia. It was to see a certain underage person.
R.I.P Virginia. Rape and abuse does irreparable psychological damage. The response from people when you out your abuser often compounds the heartache.
Molin’s baby momma is still at it. She’s all over the Reddit group and Twitter. I think she knows “Jim Bean” and a few of the old creepers Molin used to hang with. I can’t believe people are still coming forward about Molin! You always think “it was just me”, and sadly it never is “just you”. Heartbreaking. I really hoped Virginia would triumph. If only they would release the names of all the scum who visited Epstein island.
I get the strong sense that after that April-June harassment and abuse spree, the "guys" if they existed at all realized what a bizarre and unhinged waste of time it is to stalk a journalist and other rape victims over a dead guy everyone knew was bad. I think she's the only one left, and is using multiple accounts to make it seem like a crowd is defending him (I can't wait to reveal the proof. Problem is, once I do, she'll realize her mistake and I'll have given up the trick. I'm still on the fence about this one, but it's a shocking reveal so I probably will). I'll say it again: Where are the people in her life to tell her this is very bad for her, and is dragging everything out more than it ever had to be, and is dragging Sten Molin's name harder than it ever had to? This continues now only because of her obsessive harassment. She won't stop on her own, because she thrives on the attention, bad or good. Why don't they tell her? The only answer I can come up with is, she has no one who cares enough to do that for her, and that's part of the reason she's the way she is. Whoever "she" is. I used to say, don't talk about her here becuase that's what she wants--to be relevant, and to matter. But she inserts herself no matter what you do, so go to town. As long as she's out there continuing to harass and stalk against everyone's wishes and consent, she puts herself into the fire, so here we are.
"They" don't tell her because they either ignore it all or the enjoy the "entertainment" - either way, anybody who could do something and does not is part of the problem. On the other hand, maybe people are telling her but she is so unhinged that she pays no heed.
Going into a fourth year of relentless harassment, including death threats, I have come to believe the desire to be a main character, to have attention no matter how negative, trumps everything. I was reading recently that stalkers have a strong need for control, and this is one way they feel they can exercise it. In both France and Australia, this is patently illegal. The statute of limitations kicks in several years after last unwanted contact, which in my case was a few hours ago. It's a long process and the counterintelligence firm I hired warned me these things can take years--and even if there's a conviction, the stalkers don't stop. The case of Australian journalist Nicole Madigan is another one where she got a conviction against her stalker, and when the stalker's probation was up, she resumed her harassment. It's beyond my comprehension, but I'm learning...
It’s easy to spot people using multiple accounts, you check out the rest of “their” feeds and if everything is about Molin then you know it’s her. I really doubt pilots are defending Molin, maybe 3 maybe 4. She was once a victim and now she spends her time defending a dead pedophile. Her family most definitely don’t care about her or they are probably just like Molin. Birds of a feather. Don’t waste your time engaging with her just block.
Totally. I hear that! I tried the ignore/block for over three years. We're well into a fourth year of stalking, so I'm changing it up, based on some new research into outdated methods of dealing with cyberstalkers. She's after me on LinkedIn today, and has posted screenshots of herself fighting once again with someone online and calling it me. If you're on linkedin, you should be able to see her bizarre, cobbled-together screed here. For all i know, she's fighting with herself to try to make me look bad. Who has the time?? https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sara-hammel-45546b3_us-army-rolls-out-sex-neutral-fitness-activity-7321507352136867840-7WVu?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAACaEsEBMdYFFyCZ-a31ypq2b3gXac1Kcuk
In the past I would IMMEDIATELY delete and block. Now i'm letting her rants sit and fester, to let everyone see who she is and what a lunatic she is. Only good thing to happen lately is that I've found other victims of cyberstalking who go through the exact same thing, so I'm not alone. I guess the psychology of stalkers is similar across the board; you have to have a certain wiring problem that won't let you stop.
Just like narcissist abusers, who then gaslight their victims.
Exactly like that
This is so sad. RIP Virginia. Sara, I'm so sorry that person is stil harassing you. And she's going for others by the look of it? This kind of behaviour is unhinged. Is it CZL? She goes by Zoe from what I know. I've been reading since the Medium days and I can't believe she's still going. I promise you she is considered a joke in the industry. Everyone knows she's delusional and in love with a corpse. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. this is not okay
Hi! It's nice to hear from you. Yes, it's "CZL." Until now, I've banned the use of her name here, as that's not what this newsletter is about or for, and I ruffled a few feathers deleting some comments about her because she is not a factor here. Unfortunately, she has spent years chasing me from platform to platform, harassing and stalking and threatening, not to mention attempting to catfish and doing a terrible job of it (that's for a future post, and the book), and writing entire articles about how I play with my own poo (with apologies to people with actual manners and taste. No one ever said she had either of those things), that now she has put herself up for public discussion. Therefore, as she has inserted herself, uninvited, into every conversation women try to have about their assaults--and conversations about anything at all, really--her volumes of harassing messages are all going to be revealed. She's wanted to be a main character for years, and due to the sheer volume of her unwanted attacks and defamatory claims, she will be.
for anyone interested in the topic of cyberstalking--or if you have been affected by it--here's a chilling new feature from BBC's Panorama talking about the bizarre phenomenon of stalkers never stopping, even after they're convicted. That also happened to Australian journalist Nicole Madigan, who spoke to a podcast about how her stalker was sentenced in criminal court and resumed her stalking when her probation was up. (all 3 stalkers mentioned in this comment are women, interestingly). What also struck me about this story was how the man involved was desperately asking, "How can you prove a negative?" She said he harmed her cat; how could he tell his followers he did no such thing? Very hard. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y9134jy0jo
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'll definitely check out the story. I don't blame you. I admire your restraint all these years. Are you aware she thinks everyone is you? She fights on reddit with people who are obviously not you and says they're Sara Hammel or Hummel. I don't know where that came from. It makes no sense and the obsession seems out of control
It's affected my life in so many ways, including mental health, relationships, and a reduction in book sales. Those damages cannot be undone. Thanks for your kind words. I'm going to restrict comments to paid only now, but will comp you so you can continue to comment if you'd like. There were two articles last week that changed my view of all this: The Panorama one I just linked to, and one that described the outdated advice on stalking. The old advice of ignore and block cyberstalkers is no longer believed to help (I can testify to this). If anything, it ratchets it up and riles them up more. Also, they say this idea that I've stuck to for these years that says that with a stalker, if you meet them on their level, you're in the mud with them, so stay above it, which I've done, is also outdated. Problem is, she says everyone is me, including accounts on social media making racist remarks and talking about drug addictions. People already think I've gotten down on her level to fight with her. So staying above it does me no good.
I’ll get down to her level. Where is she now? I give her a good verbal lashing.
oh plus she insults me all over Reddit and stalks me on LinkedIn, too, she's so weird
For starters, I got an email from a mutual friend saying CZL or Zoe or Zophie Leonard is now coming for Karlene Petitt on Twitter, and is still over there accusing everyone including you of being Sara Hammel, and now I know she's beyond help. blue sky she's had 3 accounts harassing me out of the blue, including one called "Mriya." I think she thinks he's still alive. Imagine if you are her husband, if she has one? What must he think of this obsession over a dead pedophile? I still can't wrap my head around it. I have asked several times for her to go away and leave me alone. That's all I ever wanted. Her response: I'll never stop. So things are going to change.
That’s her married name. It’s Claire-Zophie or Zoe. Mriya is the daughter. Although she claims Molin never had kids with underage girls. Yeah right! My opinion is that she is embarrassed about who Molin was and is trying to save his reputation and by default hers. She actually told you she’ll never stop?
How do you know her? Are you with American? Or QANTAS? She holds an ATPL and worked ATC but she’s not a line pilot. You’re right. She’s batshit and no one in the industry takes her seriously except the aviation fratboys out at Bankstown which was Molin’s old haunt.
I'm peripheral to the industry. I don't know her personally, but I have seen her go off on social media. When I came to check out this Substack after a long time away, I couldn't believe she was still going. I don't want to be identified as the people I know are afraid of retaliation, but I wanted to at least show some support.
You’re not showing support. You’re watching the “drama” unfold from the sidelines using an anonymous account. This isn’t helpful at all. I am sorry.
The flight from JFK to Changi Airport Singapore and then on to Sydney Australia is the longest flight route in the world. It is a nightmare for passengers and crew. It is almost 19 hours of pure torture in cramped conditions, no sleep and horrible jet lag after. The worst seat in the house on that plane has to be the tiny cockpit jump seat squished at the back of the flight deck. Think economy class but with even less leg room and no comfortable cushioned seat. You have to ask yourself why Sten Molin was regularly taking the jump seat on that flight to come all the way down to Australia. It was to see a certain underage person.